Malaysian Schools: Their rules and regulations

Assalamualikum and good day.

The above title referred. Please read this situation and give your opinion.

A is a naughty and bad student.  He always do bad things to others and make almost everyone in the school hate him for that. Not to mention about  the several bullying cases he's involved. On top of that, he's already in the blacklisted student waiting for expulsion. He has a friend who is in fact has the totally opposite personalities, B.  

B, on the other hand, is a good student, always come to the class on time, came to school everyday without miss. Even if he's not one of the top students in his form, he still behave accordingly making other people like him. Basically, he's a normal student with no bad records or whatsoever.

So one day A came to B while  B is walking back home after school. A put something in B's bag and told B to keep the thing for him. Without suspecting anything, B just keep the thing inside his bag and decided to hold it for A until the next day.

The next day, when B checked the 'thing' inside his bag, to his surprise, the 'thing' was actually a packet full of RM 50 notes. B don't know what to do, he just sit silently in his chair. A didn't come to school that day. The money are reported missing from the headmaster's office for the school fund. 

But, unfortunately, someone saw A giving the packet of money to B the other day and he reports that to the school board. Then, the school board had decided to expel both of the students thinking that A and B are comploting to stole the money, without listening to what they have to say. 

Is it fair for the student?Is it the correct procedure of expelling a student?


May I ask for your opinion on this matter?
I never been to government schools since form one, so I'm asking you guys these. (any school such as Chinese schools, religious schools, MRSMs, SBPs and others are included)

1. Usually, what would be the solution taken by your school for Student A and Student B?

2. Is there any investigation conducted to find the best solution to the case?

3. Is it right for the school board to just expel the student without hearing their ( A and B) defenses on this matter and based only on the rumors?

Thanks for your time reading this.

note: currently having this problem and I hope we can go through all these hardships together.

note2: week 3: we were sent to welding department. Hot place but wonderful supervisors.

Comments

18 Responses to "Malaysian Schools: Their rules and regulations"
  1. i think the best solution is the interrogate both and find out the answer, rather than making assumptions.. =)

  2. sometimes, the principal decides individually

  3. hmm.. dunia nih memang kejam..

  4. Hmm..
    No idea.I never involved in such case.
    Anyway,adik nta ke jadi mangsa skrng?

  5. PEOPLE who implement the rule, who make the rule
    rule is just an entity that dont have feeling and sort of human have

    this case, i think the one should be blame is the person, not the rule

  6. oww~
    kalau case macam ni selalunya diselesaikan dalam linkungan sekolah dulu
    like, panggil those students yg terlibat, witnesses, parents.
    apa org kata bermusyawarah? eh? haha! dono what the exact mean of it act'! haha
    tapi bawak berbincang dulu lar~
    kalau dah teruk sangat jadinya case ni, baru bawak gi polis.
    tapi jarangla nak dengar case yg diselesaikan tanpa dgr mn2 pihak dulu.
    oh, in this case, for school yg dkt luar bandar. kalau dalam bandar memang jadi trend dah kan, buang-buang pelajar macam tu aje. =/

    tapi selalunya memang boleh diselesaikan cara baik. paling teruk pun, pelajar bermasalah tu yg kena tukar sekolah. =/

    y munsyi?

  7. Salam.

    Biasanya kalau terjadi di sekolah, guru akan berbincang dan kalau kes berat begini, polis memang akan dipanggil. Kita ada rules sendiri di sekolah, tak boleh buang pelajar sesuka hati dan pelajar sendiri ada hak untuk tahu kenapa mereka dibuang.

    No such thing boleh expel sesuka hati (macam Kyoto dalam Gokusen tu)

    Parents akan dipanggil, duduk berbincang dengan Pengetua, HEM, Guru Disiplin dan kaunsler at the same time.

  8. salam Munsyi_sama

    tindakan yang diambil sekolah tu adalah tak patut. terdapat tatacara untuk menangani masalah mcm ni.

    -kes mesti dibicarakan dulu
    -pelajar sepatutnya punya hak utk membela diri
    -seorg pljr belum bersalah selagi kesalahannya tak terbukti
    -sekiranya tak bersalah, pengetua buat keputusan bhw tuduhan tiada bukti
    -sekiranya bersalah, baru hukuman dijatuhkan.

    Maknanya setelah semua lgkah diambil barula boleh laksanakan hukuman.

  9. once,i had attempt almost d same situation as B. but the case was different, maybe not as bad as what B experienced...
    not to mention my bad day... i was saved back then,as there are still people who do believe in me.believed dat i won't do such 'bad thing'. and the problem was settled just among d students n teacher..

    So, B, being as a good student, good frenz, with good record, i believe dat there must be some people in school who still have faith in him n wanna search d truth behind it.if this is a real story (^_')

    just wonder why did d school board decide on expelling them without any investigation. that's unfair for B!

  10. @kenwooi
    Yup, agree with u. But I think just few schools will do it.


    @bh
    I hope the principal did interrogate the student and consult with the Disciplinary board first.


    @kyo
    in fact it is cruel, isn't it


    @ukur kira
    it's okay. we're from the same school. =)

    yup.

  11. 1. well, i think they will call both of them, their friends also. Then investigate the matter by questioning them. Checking alibi, proof and motives.

    2. some teachers tend to overreact, but i think they did some effort.

    3. you know the answer. NO. they suppose to make sure. not assume and pretend like them sure. And in this case im thinking that they are taking safe movement, al least safe for em.

    Usually school will take things seriously when parents pushing them to. So i hope the parent dont just sit still.

  12. @joe
    Yes.when people follow the rules blindly without thinking, this is what might happen. The rule is just a guidelines to make the decision making easier for the love of God.*sigh*


    @tirah watif
    yup. Mmg kena bincg betul2. Dgr semua pihak. In this case, student B xbermasalah. This is his 1st offence (or should I say dituduh as offender).


    @Zara
    Thats very true. The student has right to know why he was expelled. teachers know this better I guess. thanks/


    @amirah
    Innocent until proven guilty. betul tu. Ade certain procedures need to be taken before making that decision.


    @khalida
    I never know you have experienced the same situation. Yes. It is a matter of people believing in you.

    But still if no one believe the student is innocent, then wouldn't proper investigation can save the image of the school itself.

  13. @lilacfla

    Yup. The parents are not sit still because this is a serious offense. The future of their son is on the decision. The student's record will be bad.

  14. Cerita ni lebih kurang sama dengan case study assignment Bussines Ethic yang pernah saya buat sem lepas.Group kiterorang pilih expelled that student atas reason dia ada masa untuk laporkan hal tu pada guru tapi kenapa dia diamkan diri.kalau dia tahu dia tak salah,patutnya awal2 lagi dia kena bertindak.

    Tapi group kiterorg kener kritik dengan lecturer.Bukti tak jelas and ada keraguan.That student should not be expelled.Give him a chance.Lebih kurang macam tulah.

    apapun Munsyi,Moga urusan keluarga yang terlibat dipermudahkan.

  15. @Fatin
    Betul. Bukti kena ada dan jelas tunjukkn student tu yg xnk jumpe cikgu. Kalau die takut nk report sebab A lg tua cmne? hmm..tu pentingnya saksi dan bukti walaupun di peringkat sekolah.

    thanks for the du'a.

  16. Sorry,error typing.maksud saya si B. hehe..

  17. Reason sebab A lagi tua sebab tu B tak nak beritahu cikgu mungkin agak tak kuat atau remeh bagi pandangan disciplinary board.

    diorang expelled students sebab nak bagi pengajaran pada student lain jangan buat perkara yg sama. tapi kalo betul A teraniaya dan dia tak bersalah dah jatuh hukuman kejam ni. (meletakkan sesuatu bukan pada tempatnya)

    suruhlah A doa banyak2.doa org teraniaya ni makbul...insya Allah.

  18. hehe. ok2. thanks for the suggestions. insyaAllah. B is trying to change to become a better person.

    Thanks again sis. =)

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